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  ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

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  i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

  now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

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  Following a leader and taking sides - if you take sides but both sides are meaningless, you just get meaningless contradiction. Or put it another way if you follow the pot that's calling the kettle white or black, where will that get you?

  And if you think Hegel's stuff sounds bonkers, then yes you have understood it correctly. It is bonkers. That is the point.

  And I'm pointing you in the direction Hegel got his ideas from which - ie the Franciscans who like the WTBS used the concept of Parousia which WTBS base their authority on.
  
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  ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

  now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

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  Kant knew that meaningless contradictions were the result of the 'dialectic method' (thesis, anti-thesis, synthesis or black hand, white hand bring them together and you have a grey hand). Despite this Hegel (following Fichte) used this machine of meaningless contradictions and set about convincing others that the nature of reality and the history of mankind was a meaningless contradiction.
  
  Marx impressed by Hegel used dialectics in his book published in 1867 Das Kapital. Engels retooled the dialectic for Marx (he made it non-idealistic) and together they called this the 'philosophy of dialectical materialism.'
  
  Dialectic materialism has played a prominent role on the world stage. In today's contentious political argument dialectics may mean 'how we ought to perceive things, know them and interpret them as good or bad.' Therefore it can mean religion and morals. Or it can mean that everything outside of one's perception is interconnected, contradictory and dynamic (spiritual, becoming something, he causes to become, JHWH). Or it can just mean a discourse.
  
  Whatever it means, Hegel said that dialectic is the method by which human history unfolds. Histroy progresses, it becomes something in the present tense.

  1137 AD - Hermetic thinker Joachim de Fiore born. He was a Calabrian monk who developed mystical theory of history that came to excercise an influence on German Pietism and Hegel.

  Circa 1200 Joachim Fiore theorized the dawn of a new era based on his interpretation of verses in the Book of Revelation when the Order of the Just would rule. Joachim distinguished between the "reign of justice" or of "law", in an imperfect society, and the "reign of freedom" in a perfect society. He wrote of parousia and a new age of Holy Spirit. Members of the spiritual wing of the Franciscan order acclaimed him as a prophet.
  
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  “White Privilege”

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  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  Hi Resolute Bandicoot and Terry - look at Pam's video (about the fist sign) then go to 3:06 of Resolute's video on the Frankfurt School. The fist is is the same one but with different colouring.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYUwpxxnves&t=3s

  The idea of being forcibly shut up is like WTBS and it's concept of apostacy.

  They mention Freud in the video Resolute Bandicoot put up. Here's a bit of extra info:-

  Freud said to Einstein the greatest obstacle to the creation of a central organisation to secure peace lies in man's destructive instincts. Libido can be harnassed to counteract destructive instincts and bring about a superior class of independent and fearless intellectuals able to guide the masses into the path of reason.

  Freud would accept no criticism of his methods, even justified doubts. Once again how similar to WTBS.

  Thank you both for putting the link to that excellent video. It is very informative.
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  Just spotted a typo - should read (Ministry of Truth in 1984).
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

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  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  Sorry if this isn't the right place to put this - but I have read that the riots are really about Communism not what colour skin you have. That narrative is just a tool for destablising society.

  On the subject of Communism the issue is property. But Marx's economic stuff didn't work in Stalinist Russia because the ordinary people were moral due to their Christian morals. Some will call that religion others will call that culture. Because Marxism failed, the Communists set out to carry out a cultural attack. It became known as the Frankfurt School and media organisations like Hollywood and the BBC (Ministry of Trust in 1984) were used to pump out Frankfurt School messages.

  Now the issue is property - maybe you think houses, cars, money. But do you think wife and children? No marriage ultimately facilitates legalising rape, no ownership of your children means you have no rights to protect them from any kind of bully or predator.
  
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  CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

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  the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

  disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

  he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

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  New role for special pioneers. Stay in, watch tv.
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  To be a Watchtower publisher is a great privilege. The question is, is it a great desirable privilege? Or a great undesirable privilege?

  And what constitutes desire? Desire for what is beneficial or unbeneficial? And what is it that benefits?

  Jesus gives us a useful steer on this:-

  (Matthew 7:12) . . .“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must likewise do to them; this, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean. . .
  
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  Sadly some priests in the Catholic church have carried out crimes against their congregation members. Justice has not been done, the incident has been hushed over and the priest has been moved to another church. Now another congregation is in danger but no warning is given to them.
  

  Employment - could it ever happen that a supervisor carried out a crime against an employee and that innocent employee would not get justice because the guilty supervisor was a particular colour? The supervisor just gets moved to a different site because the company are too afraid to defend the innocent employee because of the suprevisor's colour? Also the employees at the new site are now in danger but no one is allowed to tell them?
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  1852 Harriet Beecher Stowe (friend of the 8th Duke of Argyll) writes Uncle Tom's Cabin. She is credited with helping fuel the abolitionist cause in the 1850s. In 1855, three years after it was published, it was called "the most popular novel of our day."

  The impact attributed to the book is great, reinforced by a story that when Abraham Lincoln met Stowe at the start of the Civil War, Lincoln declared, "So this is the little lady who started this great war."

  1865 The end of the Civil War found former Millerites promoting new dates for the Second Coming. George Storrs of Brooklyn, New York, who published the Bible Examiner and was instrumental in forming the Life and Advent Union, focused his followers’ hopes on 1870, while a group headed by N.H. Barbour of Rochester, New York, looked to 1873 or 1874, and published their calculations in Barbour’s periodical the Herald of the Morning. ….Barbour and Storrs were among the Adventist leaders who shaped the thinking of a newcomer to the religious scene, teenager Charles Taze Russell.

  Question to consider – did C T Russell associate the Civil War with Bible prophecy? If so the Watchtower, which has caused so much damage, might never have been formed had the Civil War not happened.
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  1863 Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation freed blacks in the Confederacy

  As if in rebuttle to Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation the Catholic French conquered the Mexican Republic, installed a Catholic as Emperor of Mexico (Maximillian von Hapsburg, a Catholic from Austria's royal family), and stationed 50,000 Catholic French troops there. These troops were right on the Confederacy's border, and threatened to intervene on the Confederacy's behalf.

  Robert E. Lee then invaded the North and fought at Gettysburg he did so with the tacit support of 50,000 Catholic French soldiers in Mexico, and another 11,000 British troops up in Canada.

  Czar Alexander sent two naval squadrons into Northern Union ports, one to San Francisco in the west, and another to New York City in the East. Because the British and French were already embroiled in conflicts with (Orthodox) Russia in Europe, they backed down. Czar Alexander II saved Abraham Lincoln and his anti-slavery cause. The "Great Emancipator" (Lincoln) was saved by the "Reformer Czar" (Alexander II) who, incidentally, had already emacipated the Russian serfs back in 1861. Indeed, the 1860s were a momentous sweep of freedom across the whole globe for millions of souls.